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0 - ArchivalUser - 11-20-2007 REJECTIONS SO FAR Abington,PA Akron General Medical Center Banner Good Samaritan Bassett Health Care NY Baylor University Medical Center Brookyln hospital Bronx Lebanon Carolina Medica Center Case medical ohio Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center NH Drexel pa El Paso Program, Texas East tenneessee univ Emory Univ Geisinger general surgery Henry Ford, Detroit, MI, Harlem Hospital NY Huron Hospital, Ohio Indiana university Innova fairfox Jacson memorial ,Florida Lahey clinic Leigh Valley, PA Loyola IL LSU Shreveport MacGaw Medical Center Maine Univ Marshfield clinic , Wisconsin Massachussetts General Hospital Mayo rochester Michigan state University Medical college of Georgia Medical college of wisconsin Medical Univ of South Carolina Memorial hospital savannah georgia Mercer Medical University Methodist Hospital Texas MGM ohio Mount Sinai Baltimore CT Mount sinai NY MYMC soundshore NYPH Weill-Cornell New York Methodist Hospital New York Presbyterian Hospital, Columbia campus Northwestern University Ohio univ Oregon Health and Science University Povidence MI Rush Univ Chicago Spartanburg St Agnes Maryland St John Hospital and Medical center stony brooks St Louis University MO St Luke PA Stoony brooks NY SUNY upstate medical Temple, Univ Texas A&M Scott and White Union Memorial Hospital MA Univ of arkansas Univ of chicago UNC chapel hill NC Univ of Hawaii Univ of Maryland, Univ of Missisippi Univ Missouri, Kansas Univ Nebraska Univ of New Mexico Univ of Oklahoma Univ South Alabama Univ of tenneessee chattanoga Univ of Tennessee knoxville Univ Tennessee memphis U Texas UTGSM UTMB Galveston Univ of Toledo Univ of utah Univ of virginia charlestottle Univ of Virginia health System University of Wisconsin-Madison General Surgery Wake forest Washington U at St Louis Western Reserve Care system/NEOUCOM program West Virginia Yale Kindly add if there are more 0 - ArchivalUser - 11-20-2007 Interview so far St. Joseph Mercy Oakland in Pontiac, MI Stamford Hospital in CT Bronx Lebanon in New York Maimonides Jewish Hospital of Cincinnati, OH St. Elizabeth Health Center in Youngstown, OH Western Care Reserve in Youngstown, OH Pinnacle, Harrisburgh PA St Agnes - Baltimore MD Huron Hospital - Ohio University of Buffalo Guthrie PA - 10/08 Albany Medical Center - October 9th Mayo Clinic (Rochester, MN) MGH, Chicago John Hopkins Drexel University College of Medicine University of Missouri, Kansas City U Toledo by ERAS email 10/19 NYMC Our Lady of Mercy Medical Center pennstate medical college of georgia cleveland clinic ohio jackson florida harlem hospital UTMB galveston northshore long island UAMS brookyln brookyln queens albert einstein montefiore providence mi NYMC brookyln queens beth israel NY Univ of kentucky USF tampa UTHSU San Antonio St Louis University St Louis St.Francis, Trenton NJ Univ of Pennsylvania kindly add if there are more 0 - ArchivalUser - 11-20-2007 got rejection from indiana guys only 2 Ivs so far,1 preliminary and 1 categorical 0 - ArchivalUser - 11-20-2007 hello every body,it seems i missd a lot of valuble informations throught the past 2 days,i need to ask you guys and especially Mahabart ,would the advice to not try for prelim surgery been applied only for those who have a viza issue or does it include also with GC like myself,please guys share your opnions and wish you the best with this batteling for survival. 0 - ArchivalUser - 11-20-2007 iam sorry but let me repeat this part of Mahabart message( If you get a categorical position that's fine, but if you get prelim position then always prefer a categorical position in other specialties.)so can you guys please clarify this phrase more,and would it been applied to green card holders? 0 - ArchivalUser - 11-20-2007 bidd i asked them both about that caz i am in the same situation so i will like to hear the explaination of that as well 0 - ArchivalUser - 11-20-2007 Man sorry for the delay . I was in trauma whole day, now had a chance to check my emails etc Ok bidd and life_saver00, I am sure Mahabart will agree with me, Here it goes, in order of preference for surgery categorical positions , visa or no visa issue: 1 AMG 2 AMG 3 AMG 4 IMGS WITH MRCS/FRCS/ EXP OF WHAT WE CANT ACHIEVE IN A PRELIM YR ( for eg 1000 or so surgeries in their hands). 5 US CITIZEN/GREEN CARD WITH CARIBIEAN DEGREE /FRESH OR OLD GRADUATES 6 IMGS WITH 2 OR MORE YRS OF PRELIM/RESEARCH IN SURGERY, SOMETIMES EVEN THIS IS RISKY , NEEDS A HELL OF CONNECTIONS 7 IMGS, WITH FEW OR ONE YR USCE EXP /CURRENTLY SURGERY PGY I BUT this all can all be reversed if you have strong luck, extremely great connection with the creator. Which I believe I didnt. Bottom line is If you all have a chance to get into a categorical position surgery or anyother speciality grap it no matter where, what type of hospital but other wise think hundred times (not by your heart) before you make a decision to enter into prelim surgery. At the end of the day after all the efforts, you might even not be tired , will is there and even more strong but but there is no path to find or follow!!!! Hope guys you are not discouraged with all this experience , but reality bites!!!!!!! Good luck to all. 0 - ArchivalUser - 11-21-2007 Good morning surgery aspirants, sorry for the late reply guys, i cannot agree more with MD03, he has given you the best picture of the current situation. IMGs are in the bottom block of this pyramid, although ACS has terminated pyramidal system, but i tell you pyramidal system was much better for IMGs because even the AMGs had to work hard to keep there position. Many physicians from my medical school made it to surgery in US in 90s decade because they just proved there selves better then AMGs in the same program. Now the situation is no body fires an AMG because that leaves a very bad impression to the program. Even in my program, even after 5 months in training at least 2 of categorical AMGs dont know how to tie surgical knots but they will ultimately survive because they have alot of time to improve. Without any doubt i have seen the best of AMGs in surgery, very dynamic, hardworking and intelligent but thats 60 - 70 % of the stack and certainly not 100 %. If you dont mind doing any other specialty then dont come to surgery as a prelim, but if surgery is your heart and soul and you would take all the risks in the world of it then its your call. People who have to support families and have children should never accept prelim, because bachelors like me can go anywhere, do anything but with family its difficult. Visa and immigration and research all SUCKSSSSSSSS ... only thing that works in surgery is surgical experience. GL 0 - ArchivalUser - 11-21-2007 one more thing .... ppl say that do prelim on H1 .... its entirely wrong, if you do prelim on H1 then you actually have 6 years for the whole training and you can do only 1 year as a prelim, but on J1 you can atleast do 2 years of prelim and you chances will be better to make it to categorical after 2 years. 0 - ArchivalUser - 11-21-2007 Received Rejection few mins ago: New York University School of Medicine |