LA is a racist center - bewareofusmle

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Here is my two cents for you, and I hope that you will spend it wisely.

Why should you be judged or evaluated by the "commoners" that are non medical professionals. Doctor. when you see patients, who are your patients, are they doctors? When you get paid as a physician, who pays you, fellow physicians? I don't particularly think so. Do these common people as you eloquently stated have the right to understand the care being provided to them by i) a non native speaker (which in any culture may be a problem)
ii) by an arrogant health care provider who has no regards for the pt's pt's wellbeing

This exam was initiated as a way to improve COMMUNICATION between patients and physicians which was getting to a point of outright shame. As far as this exam is concern, fellow physicians measure or critique your clinical skills, and the "commoners" that will be paying your salary will measure your communication skills. It is that simple; the client is always right, so to speak.

American exams measure different levels of a broad and vast knowledge, and I believe this is one of the only systems that is fair all over the world in this aspect. The issues of SPs laughing behind ones back is a very ridiculous statement.

This is the sort of attitude that cause the public to cry "foul" in the first place, and here we are being tested for communication. The ability to listen very carefully measures a lot of things, and put one in a different category of comprehension.

Very few of the people on this forum will let you treat them, with this kind of concept. We are all physicians too.
Good luck, and I hope that you will change your point of view.

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At least the true patients are aware of their ilnesses and not faking their diseases but those SPs are bad actors, one more thing IF ECFMG is adopting a non discriminative policy and all centers are allike to US physicians and IMG and the success rate is equal between LA and Philly why on earth does the Philly center was closed for a long period of time in the face of IMGs simply they say that a lot of IMG took the cs at Philly more than the US citizens : they are adpting a racist policy themselves, one more thing did i succede the CSA by terms of mere luck: i dont think so i was granted the pass notice by the same ECFMG: tell me that both exams are different: nonsense, again why the ECFMG adopted a policy for revalidation of previous CSA : english and communicatiion: i passed on both parts: surprisingly:They are exterminating all old IMG by that way: who hires those patients ? i dont know what background do they come from? do they pay them a lot? i dont think so who can accept this tough job anyway? think about it and be open minded: i am not arrogant to commoners the reverse is true

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I am really sorry that I can't waste my time anymore on this subject since this forum become INS forum, instaid of CSA learning forum.
Thank you very much to all of you for your inputs and God bless you all !

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I am really sorry to leave the forum, but I can't waste my time on this subject anymore since this forum seemsl ike become a INS forum instaid of CSA Forum,
Thank you for all the constructive and destructive inputs and God bless you all!

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,. Well bewareofusmle may be right to some degree.
But if that so,,, was all the SP's white american ?? (nonblack??)
, Well SP has some power to fail us and yes they do,, because what we are studying or training all these yrs. is for the PATIENT, not just for PD's.
,,Don't generalise your view.
Well i understand that you are very competitive doc. but that doesn't mean we are always right, and sometimes we do fail. May be we didn't reliase our weakness or underestimated. Yes sometimes life is unfair. GL. but don't get into the court, as it may ruin your carrier most probably. GL

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To jbpinnock,
Excellent feedback and I hope your feedback will serve a lot of FMG well,
I respect and I agree with your opinion 1000 % and I would like to be in contact with people that I can learn something.
Keep up the good work !!!!!!
Hurayyyy to you,
I am so glad that you are "rigth on the money , doctor "
God bless !

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Dear bewareusmle,
I am a middle eastern too and took my step 2 cs in LA center a few months ago and failed in data gathering part, but I did not feel anything wrong with sps or proctors or any racial discrimination there. I wonder how they can find that we are middle eastern or Latinos or Hindis... in a country like the US that you can see a lot of people from all around the world with different colors and faces.
And where did you get the statistics about failure rate for IMGs in LA center?
Another question, as you said, you passed step1,2 & 3, I'd be pleased if you tell me that how could you take the step 3 before passing step 2 cs?
Thanks and good luck

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Dear bewareusmle,
I am a middle eastern too and took my step 2 cs in LA center a few months ago and failed in data gathering part, but I did not feel anything wrong with sps or proctors or any racial discrimination there. I wonder how they can find that we are middle eastern or Latinos or Hindis... in a country like the US that you can see a lot of people from all around the world with different colors and faces.
And where did you get the statistics about failure rate for IMGs in LA center?
Another question, as you said, you passed step1,2 & 3, I'd be pleased if you tell me that how could you take the step 3 before passing step 2 cs?
Thanks and good luck

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I thought kamelija was fading out of this discussion, but he kept replying. Inconsistency is worse than a cry of racial discrimination.

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Hey,rhombus! I guess kamelija is a she not a he. And I think Kamelija and Valentina are one and the same person.She changed her name after she was on fire, trying to defend herself...Poor girl... I start to feel sorry for her...But she won't give up..Can't you recognize the same long, boring,nonsense lectures?