Fellow IMGs: Why are you even in the US? - residentdream

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To get rich man and spend it on booze and hoez

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@ nanaki

I know a few American Citizens that would love to serve remote communities and / or attend malignant programs if given the opportunities. However, the system is being flooded by non-citizens and leaving hard working American Citizens out in the cold. The truth is America does not have enough jobs to go around and a country must protect it's citizens or it will grow weak. American can no longer ignore that good jobs are going to non-citizens; while American citizens go without. The truth is - America no longer has enough jobs to share with the rest of the world. If this continues, the American economy will continue to suffer. Therefore, while I understand and sympathized with some of the reasons IMG's come to the United States - it's time to close the gates and take care of the American Citizens before it's too late.

Try to imagine - if the situation was the same in your country. American citizens going to your country and taking away jobs from you and your family. Would your position / view change?

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I am in USA because I didn't know much , Now I can't move anywhere, I was told not fit anywhere because I used to be a doctor and working hard for exam and getting clinical experience which is actually useless for any other profession. I have many other certification such as pharmacy tech, Medical assistant, Clinical research (GCP) certification. but non help. my medical license back home have expired. ....

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@dictionary99:

Did you know that once you are done with residency and you require visa or GC sponsorship, your employer has to advertise the position for a determined amount of time and make it visible aned open that they have an spot up for grabs for any American graduate who wants it before they give the position to an IMG?
If nobody applies, then they can offer this position to the foreign graduate with residency and fellowship training in the US. I have met people that have a process going and have AMGs apply to their positions 1-2 weeks before that timeframe ends leaving them with a big problem. AMGs can take those jobs any time if they want to.

Also, the J waiver program. Why do they send J people to places people do not want to go to? Because There is a need for physicians that they cannot fill in any other way.



I receive 15+ emails every week asking for locums work and offering positions in cold, remote locations in northern states, southern places in the middle of nowhere and rust belt cities where nobody wants to go.
The fact that there is a system to regulate that jobs go to American citizens first, that there is a J waiver program to cover the need for physicians in undesired places, and the constant advertising for positions in those places are signs that the problem is not a lack of jobs.
My country has a problem of physicians from neighboring countries going there to offer their services for cheaper or nothing and taking jobs from everyone else. Where I come from they can pay you 7 dollars for performing an EGD as a GI specialist because everyone will do it for that cheap. The lack of jobs is a reality there. Not here.

Maybe the problem is the USMLE or the fact that some people cannot cope with the demands of that system and the NRMP expectations, and PDs don't want to be stuck with candidates that they feel will not perform adequately during residency based on a set of criteria that they consider objective enough.

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To give you a nightmares and heart attacks

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@dictionary99 : You may be missing a fundamental point. Residency is selection is based on where you obtained your medical degree and NOT where your citizenship is from. If you as an American citizen obtained your medical degree outside the US, you ARE an IMG and so should be be prepared to compete with visa IMGs for residency positions. This is what makes our country so great. It attracts the best while rationally giving opportunities to American educated medical graduates.

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@nanaki

Hopefully, your country is trying to fix their problem as America is trying to fix their system. Since you seem so concern about your country, perhaps, you should go back to your country to help them solve their issues.

It appears the system that you are talking about is broken because the regulation that jobs go to American citizens should of occurred in the earlier step - during the residency process...If American citizens are left out of the first job selection process, it's reasonable to predict that their will not be enough American citizens in the second phase - working as independent physicians. The system is broken and needs to be fixed at the core to fix the problem...train more American citizens and you will have more American doctors. If we continue to let IMG that are Americans and AMG go unmatched while we hand out visas to immigrants this system will continue to drain and break our economy.

@amiqt.students

You are missing the fundamental concept – American residency is a job! A job that requires you to pay taxes, that provides a way to buy food and shelter for your family. A job that is paid with American tax dollars, that is processed via American economy. A JOB! No American job, weather it is medical residency or working at Wal-Mart should be given to immigrants that require a visa when you have American citizens that are ready and willing to do the work.

We need to make America great again and take back our jobs!

No hard feelings…just a thought!!

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The country I mention is not trying to fix the problem and don't worry, I am not concerned about it, not at all. The US is my country now, where I live and work.

So if you try to fix the problem you need to open more positions for medical students in schools in the continental US, which is already being done.
This does not have to do with the citizenship status of US IMGs. US IMGs that were not able to secure a position in the US medical school system (for one or another reason) tried to find a way around the impediment of not getting into the US medical system, and now they have to struggle to secure a residency position without realizing that they are also taking advantage of a broken system.
It has to do with the selection criteria for jobs in a very competitive scientific field where supervisors do not like to settle for average candidates.

You say perhaps I should go back and help? Perhaps I should just stay, keep my 400K yearly salary and forget about this until the orange turd gets tired of this farce and starts delegating basic functions and killing regulatory measures, fulfilling the wet dream of white nationalists and neo nazis, giving us our own brown shirts and our very own gestapo. Then US IMGs probably won't have to worry about securing a residency because what good is medical training when the world goes belly up?

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@dictionary99 : Donald Trump will tell you the same thing. If you are an AMG then he will ensure that you get a good shot at getting a residency (it is already at 95% anyways). However, you did NOT get your medical degree from America. You were NOT competitive enough to get into an American medical school is the presumption. If you obtained your medical dregree from XX country then you too should perhaps also do your residency there isint it?? 60% of Caribbean graduates match (maybe even higher), so I ask you sincerely- are your scores poor? What is the issue? DJT wants winners and NOT people looking for welfare/hand-outs!

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FOREIGN NON AMERICAN COME TO THIS COUNTRY LIKE YOU WINING THAT THEY SHOULD GET BETTER CHANCE FOR MATCHING. YOU ARE NOT AN AMERICAN, NOR DO YOU PAY TAX BEFORE APPLYING. NOW ALL OF THE SUDDEN YOU WANT TO HAVE AN AMERICAN DREAM BY CONGESTING HERE. IF YOU ARE SO BETTER THAN ME AND ALL THE US IMG WHY DONT YOU STAY IN THE DESERT AND INDIA. AN AMERICAN IMG IS WAY MORE THAJ NON AMERICAN. I HAVE ALREADY PREMATCHED IN NY. HOPE ALL MY AMERICAN INTERNATIONAL GRADUATE CAN SAVE A SEAT FROM THESE NONUS IMG SUCCUBUS. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN